[ExI] What's wrong with Maher's Religulous?

Stefano Vaj stefano.vaj at gmail.com
Fri Apr 10 20:20:40 UTC 2009

On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 8:07 PM, Damien Broderick <thespike at satx.rr.com> wrote:
> And interestingly O'Neill's criticism (to the extent that it's justified,
> and Dawkins always seems vulnerable) fails to touch most transhumanism:

Indeed, but it begs the question of differences between transhumanism
and new atheism that I am perhaps too tempted to ignore, out of my
heartfelt support for the second...

> Certainly I have argued for years, sometimes in this forum, that one element
> of religion is Ernst Bloch's and Fredric Jameson's `unexpected emergence, as
> it were, beyond "the nightmare of History" and from out of the most archaic
> longings of the human race, of the impossible and inexpressible Utopian
> impulse here none the less briefly glimpsed: "Happiness for everybody!...."'

Why, for me, owing to my personal Nietzschean-Darwinian persuasion, it
sounds more like "eternal restlessess, struggle, self-overcoming,
challenges and emancipation from the old-world chains for everybody
interested, in view of a neverending dream of human and posthuman
greatness", but I see your point... :-)

Stefano Vaj

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