[ExI] META: A modest proposal for the Extropy-Chat list

Natasha Vita-More natasha at natasha.cc
Thu Apr 30 16:29:42 UTC 2009

Could be.  I'm not sure.  List behavior, like life in general, has its ups
and downs and perhaps we just need more ideas to bit into.  I mean, how long
can we talk about the same old ideas from the same perspective?  We have
been in existence since the early 90s.  I do not think because 'gene is not
on the list that its quality is down.  He is genuinely brilliant,
provocative, informative and no nonsense, but there are so many list members
who have the same characteristics. Maybe because Extropy Institute is not
longer in business there is no formal project to get involved in, or maybe
because the early ideas are not mainstream, or maybe because we don't have
to defend ourselves against attacks from WTA any more, or because TED has
taken the baton of the future and marketed it, or that Kurzweil has created
his own philosophically/pragmatically transhumanist business and not
included many transhumanists, I do not know.  BUT, personally I like this.
It is a very good sign.  We ought to be taking bigger bits of the present,
near future and far future.

But you can be darn sure that members who are aggitating the list, Max or
Spike does not help.  


Nlogo1.tif Natasha Vita-More

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[mailto:extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Bishop
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Subject: Re: [ExI] META: A modest proposal for the Extropy-Chat list

On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 6:19 PM, Max More <max at maxmore.com> wrote:
> What to so? I do think that we face an overwhelming amount of digital 
> "stuff" and quite reasonably want to focus our discussions. Requiring 
> some basic level of adherence to the Principles of Extropy on this 
> particular list seems quite reasonable to me. (And I don't believe 
> anyone could demonstrate dictatorial behavior from me. EVER.)

Maybe it would turn out to be helpful to turn into a facilitator of
extropian thinking. To be honest, I haven't been here too long but do
suspect the list has been dropping in quality of extropic thought, to the
extent that I suspect that the common posts might not be about extropy
simply because the original posters are now gone. I know that Eugen is gone
now, for instance, and I haven't been channeling in all that much of the
work that I've been up to into here, so maybe that's why the health has been

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