[ExI] "polluting my home with unwanted people"

John Grigg possiblepaths2050 at gmail.com
Sun Feb 8 04:37:15 UTC 2009


Stefano Vaj wrote:
There is nothing humane or affordable in mass immigration in Europe,
both for the countries of origin and for the countries of destination,
but a massive destruction of resources, sovereignties and diversity.
>>

I thought these European nations (at least the political and
business/corporate power bloc) wanted poor immigrants to come in and take
jobs for low wages that the local citizenry would only work for much higher
wages.  I realize this can cause higher costs/taxpayer strain when
bi-lingual teachers are necessary, crime rates go up, or when some/many of
the immigrants decide to go on welfare.

he continued:
Japan or Israel are in this respect good, very different examples that
there is no inevitable "historical force" that would require a country
to surrender the control of its borders to phenomena that have really
little to do with some kind of "natural law", in particular having
little equivalents in recent times where conditions in the originating
countries were even worse, or from other countries that are even
poorer.
>>

I found it interesting that you brought up these two nations as examples.
Israel has welcomed many immigrants (Russian Jews, African Jews, etc.,), but
they are generally of a similar cultural and religious background and so
this greatly speeds up the melting pot process.  Israel is very unique in
this way.  And many of the Russian immigrants were highly educated, which
was of additional benefit.

Japan is a nation known for being at least moderately xenophobic.  They have
a Korean minority (Japanese colonialism and exploitation fueled the need for
Koreans to relocate to Japan in search of work) and they have a mixed track
record in terms of how they have treated them.  The Japanese thought they
were onto something by encouraging the immigration of South American
Japanese but to their unpleasant surprise they found these people tended to
have gone "Latin American" and were often by Japanese standards of public
conduct, too loud and boisterous.

The Japanese are in a fix because they have a rapidly aging population and
at the same time their young women are not having near enough children to
maintain current population levels.  And so they are taking on the challenge
by pouring lots of resources into robotic research and development.  A large
mobile robot that can pick up and move elderly patients from bed to bed is
just one example.

China is going to be needing lots of immigrants, in the form of single young
females to marry the many young men who would have to otherwise go without a
wife.  And this because many parents felt if they were only going to have
one child, it would be a boy.

Legitimate global matchmaking services will thrive as they connect women
from the Philipines, Thailand, etc., with lonely Chinese men.  And I
strongly suspect the Triads will find the smuggling of nubile young "brides
to be" a booming business.

I wonder how Italy will change over the next fifty years or so due to the
high level of immigration they have allowed and the fact that many of the
young women there generally do not find childbearing appealing and so with
such a low birthrate & little investment in technology, Italy seems to face
a rough future.

I was surprised to learn that Germany has an even lower birthrate than
Italy.  And France is having a mini baby boom!

John Grigg
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