[ExI] left on iran

spike spike66 at att.net
Sat Jun 27 20:08:45 UTC 2009

> ...On Behalf Of Stefano Vaj
> What I object to is the hypocrisy of claiming that one's prob 
> with Amahdinejad is that he may have in fact obtained only 
> 53% rather than 62%...

How about 48% rather than 62%?  Would it still be hypocrisy then?  We don't
know who won that election.  They announced the outcome before they could
have counted and compiled the results.  But clearly we have seen the end of
democracy in Iran, as they race to get nuclear weapons.  We have seen the
US, Britain and Israel accused of meddling, but I have my doubts about that.

Actually I agree it is possible the Iranian incumbent did get a majority,
but they made it perfectly clear the actual election was a phony,
irrelevant.  Granted there wasn't much difference between the major
candidates.  We have seen in the states the 2000 and 2004 presidential
elections that there was little discernible difference between the leading
candidates, none that I could see.  But I am not ready to give up the notion
of countable and verifiable elections.  Doing that hands absolute power to
the government, and we all know where that absolutely leads.  

>... when in fact a coup against him, 
> Algeria-style, would be supported even if he had 95%, the 
> supposed "will of the Iranian people" being totally 
> immaterial to that position... Stefano Vaj

I don't see any government suggesting a coup, but rather fair, honest and
accurate elections, freedom of speech, and that the government thugs stop
beating, imprisoning and killing the protestors.


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