[ExI] global warming again

Keith Henson hkeithhenson at gmail.com
Sun Mar 15 21:59:40 UTC 2009

It doesn't matter.  Running out of cheap energy will kill billions
long before either an ice age set in or the ice caps melt.

One interesting point, the proposed carbon taxes in the US are more
than enough to pay for space based solar power.

Personally, I am agnostic about the effect of carbon on climate.  One
thing is sure though, the oceans will become much more acid.

100 ppm of CO2 is about 1000 billion tons or close to 1000 cubic km.
We need to put in at least 30 TW to replace fossil fuels.  If we put
in another 50 TW, that's enough that in 12 years we could convert 1000
billion tons of CO2 back into synthetic oil and put it in old oil


On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 2:01 PM, spike <spike66 at att.net> wrote:
> It is so puzzling.  What happens if we keep taking measuring and find that
> the recent climate data indicates the globe is actually cooling?  See black
> line on Roy Spencer's curve:
> http://www.drroyspencer.com/latest-global-temperatures/
> Would we then theorize that global cooling will kill us a lot faster than
> will warming (we are Africans after all), and that humans are causing it,
> and if so what would we do?
> 1) Would we stick with the notion that increased atmospheric carbon dioxide
> warms the earth, and so we reverse all the Kyoto accords to mandate emitting
> more of the stuff to offset the cooling?  Or
> 2) would we theorize that somehow there is an unknown mechanism that carbon
> dioxide emissions somehow increase cloud cover and scatter more solar
> energy, and so we need to restrict CO2 emissions anyway? Or
> 3) ignore the data as faulty, misleading or politically motivated, and keep
> insisting that the globe will eventually warm due to scientific theory?  For
> how long?
> I am not being my usual snarky self here, I am asking what do we do if we
> keep having fewer hurricanes instead of more, and the measured global
> average temperature appears to be dropping?
> spike
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