[ExI] To Arms!
lcorbin at rawbw.com
Tue Mar 31 06:53:21 UTC 2009
Stefano makes many good points in the following.
Perhaps we differ only on our risk assessment, e.g. our estimates
for the probability that a Muslim culture far less tolerant than
ours will take over.
Stefano Vaj wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 5:32 AM, Lee Corbin <lcorbin at rawbw.com
> <mailto:lcorbin at rawbw.com>> wrote:
> I say "good"! Assimilate or else!
> Mmhhh, I do not follow you that much on this one, even though such a
> position is nowadays shared by Guillaume Faye, an author I was
> criticised for having translated in Italian, in particular in his
> transhumanism-relevant writings.
> In fact, I disapprove of unregulated immigration and the trading of
> manpower as of assets exactly because it tends to destroy diversity and
> popular sovereignties in the world, both in the departure and
> destination countries, to the detriment of specific features - such as
> European tolerance or secularism - which some of us may hold dear.
> "Assimilation" implies on the other hand the typically islamic (or
> rather, monotheistic) idea that non-believers can and should be forced
> to see the error of their ways and be "converted" to a universal truth.
> Now, while I am only too favourable to a spontaneous evolution of muslim
> views in a direction more compatible with mine, I have no special desire
> to "digest" massive numbers of allogenous individuals cut out from their
> communities and traditions and imported like cattle, along with their
> beliefs, in my own, in the hope that the global entropic melting pot
> originating from the process ends up being not-too-unacceptable from a
> "western" view.
> Ultimately, I think they should be allowed to protect and maintain their
> own cultural identity - and that it should be demanded in return that
> they respect mine, without, say, claiming for the enactement of laws on
> my territory that be compliant with their own tradition.
> Ultimately, a diverse world with different legal systems and
> well-defined local popular sovereignties and ways of life is also IMHO
> the best bet for transhumanism, allowing the deployment of competitive
> mechanisms and preventing the global enforcement of legal or "moral"
> prohibitions against technological and cultural developments which may
> be conducive to a posthuman change.
> Stefano Vaj
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