[ExI] The Circle of Coercion

Stathis Papaioannou stathisp at gmail.com
Sat May 9 12:20:54 UTC 2009

2009/5/9 painlord2k at libero.it <painlord2k at libero.it>:

> Like in your building, they could collect money from you for some reasons,
> but they must document the reasons before and must document how they spent
> the money after. I'm sure they have claims only for renovations and
> reparations needed, I suppose they can not claim money for improvements not
> needed. E.G. they could claim money to substitute lamps with LEDs when the
> lamps worn out, not to substitute working lamps with LEDs.

I'm pretty sure that if a 2/3 majority decided on any major
renovation, the rest would be forced to go along with it. There might
be limits, but the point for the present discussion is that the
contract states I would have to go along with a majority decision. My
only way out is to sell the apartment, which is pretty drastic, if not
as drastic as leaving the country.

> The fact they sign a written contract is important as they explicitly accept
> a limited set of duties and receive a limited set of claims.
> In your case, the contract say something, but you are bound from the laws
> written before and after you accepted the contract by someone else with or
> without your agreement.
> The main problem is that would be difficult to implement a single contract
> stating all and any duty and claim of any and all citizens.
> The main contract would state some basic rules and the penalties associated
> for breaking them. Something like "Don't kill", "Don't steal", etc. Then
> other contracts would rule other matters.

The basic contract is that citizens are bound by anything whatsoever
that the elected legislators decide on. Some countries have
constitutions which limit the kinds of laws that can be changed, but
then the constitution can be itself be changed by majority decision.

Stathis Papaioannou

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