[ExI] Left Behind

Aware aware at awareresearch.com
Fri May 22 18:48:33 UTC 2009

On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Stefano Vaj <stefano.vaj at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 6:47 PM, Jef Allbright <jef at jefallbright.net> wrote:
>> Giulio, nearly everyone in these futurist forums (and nearly everyone
>> else too) shares this desire for more in the way of the sensual
>> pleasures you list.  But I think it's worth pointing out, that more
>> coherently, there is no distinct or essential "you", separate from the
>> meat, and the very sensual desires you express are *defined* by the
>> nature of the "meat" within the current cultural context.
> Not so sure. Even today, there are, e.g., sex-related pleasure
> (seduction, e.g., or some forms of cybersex) where the "meat" is not
> really involved.

Was referring to drives, encoded via evolutionary processes in the
"meat" organism (including its brain and nervous system), regardless
of the interface or interaction.

I have no problem, conceptually, morally or otherwise, with
"upgrading" the embodiment (not just the substrate) , but I would
argue that this will also "upgrade" the "self" and all that entails.

- Jef

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