[ExI] "meat"

Samantha Atkins sjatkins at mac.com
Mon May 25 08:11:29 UTC 2009

On May 23, 2009, at 2:17 PM, Damien Broderick wrote:

> At 02:00 PM 5/23/2009 -0700, Lee wrote:
>>> Most of the people posting here seem
>> > to have no notion how depraved it
>>> is to speak of human bodies as "meat".
>> I plead guilty. Indeed, we should aspire
>> to good taste whenever such an alternative
>> is pointed out to us.
> My vehemence derives from my perception that this *isn't* just a  
> matter of "good taste" or politeness, but a derangement of values  
> far deeper and more corrosive. It's the same dehumanizing process  
> that ends up vilifying Jews as "vermin."

Over the top rhetorical shouting.

> And it's no accident that my objection is also often raised by many  
> of the intelligent critics of transhumanism; they can sometimes see,  
> from the outside, the pathologies that can creep into our discourse  
> and analysis.
> As several people have commented to me offlist, "meat" is a common  
> way for $cientologists to refer to human bodies. That's no accident  
> either. In general it's the horrid body-hatred of Xianity recast in  
> a reductionist scientistic framework.

Guilt by association now?

> And obviously Max and Natasha and some others here don't fit this  
> category of body-loathing. It's not a design feature of  
> transhumanism, it's a malign bug that deserves to be squashed.

I loath being trapped in an embodiment of very limited duration that  
is deteriorating with agonizing rapidity.  That doesn't at all mean I  
hate bodies or embodiment per se.

- samantha

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