[ExI] our next billion dollars

Michael LaTorra mlatorra at gmail.com
Mon May 25 18:29:40 UTC 2009

Another way to conceptualize these very big numbers is to use clock-time in

I just plunked my calculator and came up with the following:

1 year = 31,557,600 seconds

1 billion seconds = 31.688 years (rounded)

1 trillion seconds = 31,688 years (rounded)

On that basis, the average American can expect to live for a couple of
billion seconds plus an additional 300 million seconds or so.

But no human being has yet lived for one trillion seconds.

Now there's a nice transhumanist goal:
I want to live one trillion seconds!
....Or more ;)

Mike LaTorra

On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 11:48 AM, spike <spike66 at att.net> wrote:

> > Damien Broderick
> > Subject: Re: [ExI] Eternity: Our Next Billion Years, by Michael Hanlon
> >
> > At 08:07 AM 5/25/2009 -0700, Spike wrote:
> > >
> > >I would countersuggest we express the current insane government
> > >spending in terms not of dollars but rather in a working prole's
> > >salary.  We then have not *illions but rather days, months,
> > years, centuries, millennia, etc.
> >
> > Barbara, with a degree in mathematics and an MBA, commented
> > on the original trillions post:
> >
> >
> > "It's still very hard for me to truly understand the concept of a
> > trillion dollars... Damien Broderick
> OK so let me run with this idea.  We know that there exists an appalling
> portion of the proletariat who are convinced that a billion is two million
> and a trillion is three million.  It would seem other nations with smaller
> fundamental units of currency would have already had to deal with this.
> We don't express interstellar distances in miles or even gigameters, these
> units being too small for such enormous scales, but rather in light-years.
> So let us consider the average salary of an ordinary prole, say Joe the
> Plumber, say fifty thousand bucks a year.  But a Joe-year (and even a
> Joe-career) are units still too small to avoid the *illion trap, so let us
> consider, instead of a year, the period of time between now and the time
> that the Christ twins, Jesus and Hoerkheimer, walked the seas, doing the
> things that indolent teenage saviors do.  (What would that be?  Walking on
> puddles?  Healing healthy hypochondriacs?  Blowing blow?  Delivering the
> Sermon on the Pitchers' Mound?  Taking a few loaves and fishes and feeding
> the five?  The world may never know.)
> OK, fifty thousand dollars times two thousand years, that makes a Joe-Jesus
> equal to about one hundred miilllllion dollars (cue the Dr. Evil gesture.)
> Before I go on, do let me invite the usual punsters to come up with a name
> for the Joe-Jesus unit, this 10^8 dollar sum.  The christalmighty?  The
> plumberbuttslammer?  The saviorass?
> spike
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