[ExI] mann-made global warming again

spike spike66 at att.net
Thu Nov 26 04:11:03 UTC 2009


> On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 9:04 PM, spike <spike66 at att.net> wrote:
> >
> > Ja which goes back to my original point.  If they were to 
> publish the 
> > temperature and latitude/longitude/date/time of everything, 
> just the 
> > raw data without interpreting it,
> ### Problem is that the CRU claim they lost the disk with the 
> raw data for some crucial periods of time last century. You 
> may find more information on that issue at Climate Audit and 
> Watts' up with that. Rafal

Ja I have seen that claim and I just don't get it.  I don't understand how
they can claim that the research is valid if we don't have some kind of way
to trace back to the original data in some form, or failing that, some
traceability to at least the algorithms used to reduce the data, or at the
very least, the intermediate results, which should have been published some
time ago.

The CRU is asking us to take their word for it in the face of apparent email
traffic that gives us every reason to not do so.  They will need to show me
some kind of evidence.  I am not necessarily a skeptic.  I can imagine the
planet is warming, based on receding glaciers and so forth, but with the
magnitude of the political decisions being made based on CRUs data, they
can't just tell us the dog ate it.  That indicates sloppy science.  There is
far too much at stake here.


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