[ExI] Jaron Lanier on AI and Singularity, not transhumanism

John Grigg possiblepaths2050 at gmail.com
Tue Aug 10 14:39:19 UTC 2010

Max More wrote:
>I only skimmed the piece, but I saw no mention of transhumanism. Instead, he >was talking about some views of AI and that of Singularitarians. Those are not >transhumanism. Important difference. He might call transhumanism religious >elsewhere, but he did not do that in the NYT piece. Please, let's keep >transhumanism distinct from Singularitarianism.

AlgaeNymph wrote:
>Because we desperately need political legitimacy, and we can't be thought of as >goofballs if we're to successfully advocate technological progress.

Hey, are you calling Michael Anissimov a goofball?!!  Why, the glass
of wine he's holding makes him look so sophisticated!  And who could
resist the rockin' music played between his comments!


Those Singularcontrarians really know how to party...

John  ; )

P.S.  Friend, when the techno-rapture happens, will you be ready?

On 8/10/10, Ben Zaiboc <bbenzai at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Sabrina Ballard wrote:
> "And transhumanism believe in becoming a human that modern day humans
> would not understand"
> Transhumanism is the idea that we can transcend our current limitations.
> This may lead to the side-effect of becoming beings that current humans
> wouldn't understand, but that's not the aim.
> The 'core principle' of transhumanism, as it's understood by most people who
> would call themselves transhumanists, is that we can and should use
> technology to improve ourselves.  This includes using science and technology
> to understand ourselves and the world, applying what we learn to make things
> better, give people more autonomy, more choice and more freedom, and spread
> intelligence and awareness as far as possible.
> There are visions of transhumanism that don't include a singularity
> (although, depending on how you define it, I think it will be difficult to
> avoid one).
> Ben Zaiboc
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