[ExI] Wikileaks

Eugen Leitl eugen at leitl.org
Mon Dec 6 11:15:32 UTC 2010

On Mon, Dec 06, 2010 at 12:06:30AM -0800, The Avantguardian wrote:
> I find it strange that in all this discussion, nobody has brought up the 
> fact that Julian Assange was once a member of this list. Doesn't anybody else 

Julian has been a member of several lists.

> remember him? I have old list emails in my inbox from him debating the nature of 
> probability with Eliezer, Serafino, and John Clark. He has also posted on the 
> nature of consciousness/identity and Kurzweil. Most of these posts date from 
> 2005.

What, is it another half decade already?
> In an age where government is groping into our underpants, I think Julian is a 
> courageous hero. He is helping make the transparent society cut both ways and I 

Don't forget PFC Manning, who's looking forward to an effective life sentence.

> think that is a noble a calling as any. Why should the government get privacy 
> and secrecy, if the people the government exists to serve are not entitled to 
> it? I am shocked that you all would be so apathetic toward one of our own 

I'm not sure we (who is this "we", kemo sabe?) are apathetic, and that Julian
is "one of our own", whatever that might be.

> becoming one of the most wanted men on the planet for no more than giving people 

If he was that, he'd be dead already.

> access to the *truth* about their governments

Information wants to be published in a distributed redundant anonymous uncensorable
cryptographic filesystem. *And* it wants to be read. *And* it wants to be acted upon.
> Stuart LaForge 
> "There is nothing wrong with America that faith, love of freedom, intelligence, 
> and energy of her citizens cannot cure."- Dwight D. Eisenhower . 

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