[ExI] the ambiguously evil british have leaked julian assange's address

[Darren Greer]

>This is the threshold where Godwin's law starts to break down.<

I'm guilty of conforming to Godwin's Law a lot, btw. But at least you can
still carry on the discussion once Hitler is invoked. More often than not,
even with a bunch of atheists and agnostics like us (or most of us --  don't
want to assume) God eventually gets dragged into it, and then you're really
screwed. I have a new roomier law: once God or Spinoza or the Many World's
Interpretation is mentioned, the on-line discussion is for all practical
purposes kaput.

Darren

On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 6:04 PM, Darren Greer <darren.greer3 at gmail.com>wrote:

>
> >I remember as a teenager seeing documentaries about McCarthyism and
> thinking to myself, "those sorts of things could never happen again!"
> I turned out to be so horribly wrong about that...<
>
> As dispiriting as it is to think that we haven't come very far, in the end
> I believe it's a good thing to contemplate and understand. I think it was
> Elie Wiesel that said that if we continue to brand Hitler and the European
> fascists as sheer monsters instead of ordinary humans capable
> of monstrous acts, we won't  be able to recognize and forestall it when it's
> happening again.
>
> The tuning point in my understanding of where we are politically came when
> I read John Keegan's Second World War and  Henry Wallace's (Roosevelt's VP)
> 1944 essay The Danger Of American Fascism.
>
> http://newdeal.feri.org/wallace/haw23.htm
>
> Up until then I thought, like most, that fascism was
> overt totalitarian control by the few over the many, and characterized by
> jack-booted racial intolerance. I got my eyes opened for good when I read
> that essay and Mussolini's definition of it: *"Fascism should more
> appropriately be called corporatism **because it is a merger of state and
> corporate power."*
> *
> *
> Then I learned that the U.S. congress has a fasces symbol on one of its
> interior walls, and that was the end of my political innocence.  I'm not
> exactly a New Wold Order Conspiracy theorist, mostly because I don't believe
> these guys are clever or patient enough to plan for that long and in such
> secrecy.  But I'm not exactly brimming over with civic pride and trust in
> our political leaders either. And if I ever do get invited to Bilderberg,
> I'm wearing a wire.
>
> Darren
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 5:34 PM, John Grigg <possiblepaths2050 at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 11:12:08PM -0400, Darren Greer wrote:
>>
>> > rather liberators. Did it in Poland, Czechoslovakia, France. The fact
>> that
>> > some government officials want to brand Wikileaks as a terrorist
>> > organization should scare you. It should scare all of us. As you
>> suggest,
>> > you can paint anything with that particular brush.  It reminds me very
>> much
>> > of the kind of propaganda tactic that Shirer described.
>>
>> Eugen replied:
>> Apologies for a me-too. But it's not "reminds me very much of".
>> It is absolutely very much exactly 100% the very same thing. This is
>> the threshold where Godwin's law starts to break down.
>> Caveat emptor. Your soul is at stake.
>> >>>
>>
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12/17/10, Eugen Leitl <eugen at leitl.org> wrote:
>> > On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 11:12:08PM -0400, Darren Greer wrote:
>> >
>> >> rather liberators. Did it in Poland, Czechoslovakia, France. The fact
>> that
>> >> some government officials want to brand Wikileaks as a terrorist
>> >> organization should scare you. It should scare all of us. As you
>> suggest,
>> >> you can paint anything with that particular brush.  It reminds me very
>> >> much
>> >> of the kind of propaganda tactic that Shirer described.
>> >
>> > Apologies for a me-too. But it's not "reminds me very much of".
>> > It is absolutely very much exactly 100% the very same thing. This is
>> > the threshold where Godwin's law starts to break down.
>> > Caveat emptor. Your soul is at stake.
>> >
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