[ExI] Max More - New CEO Alcor Life Extension Foundation
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Mon Dec 27 17:56:16 UTC 2010
On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 2:48 AM, Eugen Leitl <eugen at leitl.org> wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 03:04:20PM -0800, Adrian Tymes wrote:
>> TL,DR: "Waaah! Society hasn't accepted cyronics yet so it never
> It doesn't sound like you've read it.
No, I did. As I said, I stopped a bit before halfway through the first part,
but I read as far as I did.
>> This analysis does not seem credible. Just to quote slide 31, it states
> Do you know who's the author?
Mike Darwin. Even the experts can get tired and frustrated and make
mistakes. That's why argument from authority is a fallacy - see
As the author said, he was writing this one from an emotional perspective,
rather than the typical logical one. That may be how he tripped up. Keeping
a detached point of view, even on topics you care about a lot, lets you avoid
making the kind of mistakes that turned me away from this paper.
>> that cyronics:
> Your comments would be a lot more credible if you'd know
> how to spell cryonics.
Bah. Typos happen.
> So you made it halfway through part I, latched up some random
> comments, and then kindly offered a tl;dr.
> Wall, yeah, Mike didn't write that for stupid people.
Yep. And I know when something's not worth my further time.
I've seen these kinds of complaints before. And it might have gotten better
past the point where I stopped reading. (Certainly, the subject lines in the
rest of it - I skimmed once I stopped reading in detail - seemed promising. If
Mike's problem was the emotions, that may well have petered out later on.)
There was nothing further for me to do about it - but I did identify
it as a useful
resource for Max, either way. I look forward to seeing his review.
>> should read this, though, as practice for the kind of arguments he's
>> going to have to debunk repeatedly.
> You're a part of the problem, then.
Other people speaking truth to power can be a problem for some of those in
power, yes. I call things like I see them.
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