[ExI] Continuity of experience
Spencer Campbell
lacertilian at gmail.com
Sun Feb 28 19:02:58 UTC 2010
BillK <pharos at gmail.com>:
> Ohhh. Such difficult questions.........
>
> Try Google
> "clinic seed" henson
Right. Yes. I knew that.
I was... being polite! Yeah, that's it.
Ben Zaiboc <bbenzai at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Indeed. But we're not concerned with dead and decaying brains, just ones that have been suspended via cryonics or some chemical preservation, etc.
>
> I'd say that such brains aren't currently 'doing mind', because they are not changing state, being unable to, and that when/if they become able to (and assuming no damage has occurred in the meantime), the mind will resume.
I would agree with you if the brain itself was reactivated later on,
or "resurrected" if you prefer, but this is not the case in a classic
uploading scenario. After freezing or plasticization, the brain is
just a block of data. A three-dimensional photograph, describing the
mind to be reconstructed in another medium.
Still I would not be bothered, except for the fact that a multi-clone
scenario is perfectly plausible here. There are many other immortality
gambits in which that is not a possibility, perhaps including a few
that have a hundred-year-plus gap in activity, and in general I don't
have any problem with them.
Ben Zaiboc <bbenzai at yahoo.com>:
> The gap is in the square where nothing changes, not between adjacent squares. If square A has a certain state, and so does square B, but C is in a different state, there is a time gap between entering state A and state C. Imagine the square B, with no change from A, being carried forward into C,D,E... to the many-multi-gazillionth square, a few years or centuries or millennia, hence. Then the state changes in the next square, which will be exactly the same as if it were still C.
Ohh, now I get it. Okay. Yes. That is a definite gap in activity.
However, I would not call it a definite gap in mind.
If I have a mind in square A, and square B is identical to square A,
then I also have a mind in square B. Looking at it that way, minds
persist *in spite of* activity more than because of it.
Technically, C has a different mind from A or B. The brain is doing
something different in C. For some reason or another, M makes the leap
from A to B to C, skittering across many different minds over time.
Ben Zaiboc <bbenzai at yahoo.com>:
> If Keith hasn't told you in the meantime:
> http://www.terasemjournals.org/GN0202/henson.html
>
> It's a short story written by him. Not bad at all, imo. Part of a larger work called "Standard Gauge":
> http://www.terasemjournals.org/gn0401/kh1.html
Well, joke's on you Ben, I already googled it! Get with the times already.
(Thanks though.)
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