[ExI] Coherent vs. Incoherent Fears of Being Uploaded

Stefano Vaj stefano.vaj at gmail.com
Mon Jan 18 21:40:40 UTC 2010


2010/1/18 Stathis Papaioannou <stathisp at gmail.com>

> A regular zombie doesn't know whether he is a zombie or not, since he
> has no mind and no knowledge of anything


In that case he is not a "regular" zombie, because it differs from a human
being at least in one kind or another of tangible, phenomenical (internal?)
showing of cosciousness that can imagined.


> but a human does know he is
> not a zombie.


I contend that a human does not not know anything like that, because real
zombies would be
indistinguishable from "real" human beings including for the zombies
themselves.

The idea that at least the conscious know they are conscious
> is shown to be false, since they may actually have zombie
> consciousness.


This is indeed my point.


> Thus we have zombies who behave as if they are
> conscious *and* honestly believe that they are conscious: conscious
> zombies, but with an inferior zombie consciousness.
>

Only that there is no way to distinguish such "false consciousness" from the
real thing.

-- 
Stefano Vaj
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