[ExI] atheists de-baptize unbelievers:

[Stathis Papaioannou]

2010/7/21 darren shawn greer <dgreer_68 at hotmail.com>
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> >Einstein was an agnostic. He specifically denied believing in a
> personal God.
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> Entirely untrue. He was not agnostic but a believer.  Remember Einstein's often used quip to Bohr, that "God does not play dice."? Time magazine did an interview with him--you can probably find it on-line--where he discusses his belief in God. They also did another piece in 2006 about his stated belief, and how the Christians tried unsuccesfully to make him a poster boy--his God was static and non-interventionist. But if you do the research, you'll see enough to convince yourself, I think. BTW, he  referred to God as "the Old One."

He was *not* a believer in a personal God. In fact, as a deist, he was
closer to an atheist than an agnostic is. An agnostic may conceivably
say that the God spoken of by Jews, Christians and Muslims might
exist, whereas Einstein said that he does not exist. And his "God does
not play dice" quote was obviously meant as an amusing way to make a
point, not a statement of religious belief. As an atheist I also on
occasion use the term "God" when referring to nature, the universe
etc., and no-one has ever misunderstood me as suddenly having a
religious conversion!

See also this Wikipedia article:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Einstein's_religious_views

'In a 1950 letter to M. Berkowitz, Einstein stated that "My position
concerning God is that of an agnostic. I am convinced that a vivid
consciousness of the primary importance of moral principles for the
betterment and ennoblement of life does not need the idea of a
law-giver, especially a law-giver who works on the basis of reward and
punishment." '

'It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious
convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not
believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have
expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called
religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the
world so far as our science can reveal it.'


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Stathis Papaioannou