[ExI] transhumanism as a philosophy

[natasha at natasha.cc]

Quoting Giulio Prisco <giulio at gmail.com>:

> Believe me Natasha, I perfectly understand your reaction. But Damien's
> "accusation" is not an accusation, but a statement of fact.

I think you misread Damien's message.  He said: "Hence, it hardly  
seems necessary to invoke a conspiracy to explain why ..."  I did not  
invoke a conspiracy. I was recalling what had transpired and which is  
well known as a matter of Fact.

I have been a big cheerleader and a pain in the neck to get Max up and  
running again and I am clearly and most definitely not in denial about  
his absence and the absence of all the frick'n hard work. THAT IS A  
FACT.


> It is a fact that others have taken advantage of the perceived absence
> of Max and the Extropy Institute, and promoted their favorite
> interpretation of transhumanism as _the_ interpretation of
> transhumanism.

Yes, this is very true.

> I and many others are not satisfied with this.

Yes, this is very true.

> There
> are certainly many exciting transhumanist projects around, but without
> the central hub that the Extropy Institute represented.

Yes, this is very true.

> The question is, how to recover the spirit and practical organization
> of a few years ago.

Some $$$ would be a great start. :-)

N


>
> G.
>
> On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 6:29 PM, Natasha Vita-More   
> <natasha at natasha.cc> wrote:
>> Oh for goodness sakes Damien.  I will wait for an apology for such a
>> unnecessary accusation.
>>
>>
>>
>> Natasha
>> Natasha Vita-More
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org
>> [mailto:extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org] On Behalf Of Damien
>> Broderick
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 11:21 AM
>> To: ExI chat list
>> Cc: RussellBlackford
>> Subject: Re: [ExI] transhumanism as a philosophy
>>
>> On 6/22/2010 8:11 AM, Natasha Vita-More wrote:
>>
>>> "The big special issues of JET that we published a year or two back
>>> are arguably the best intellectual resource that exists, and they
>>> should be referred to, but I don't see any common philosophical system
>> there."
>>>
>>> There is some truth to this, but it does not out-think "Extropy: A
>>> Journal of Transhumanist Thought". It is simply more academic in scope.
>>
>> JET is available to everyone in an instant at http://jetpress.org/ .
>> Despite my long interest and involvement in the topic, I have never seen a
>> copy, real or virtual, of "Extropy: A Journal of Transhumanist Thought," and
>> as I pointed out recently it doesn't appear to be accessible online. Bryan
>> urled to the Wayback Machine, but it isn't there either, it seems. The
>> Extropy Institute has been closed down for a long time now. Bostrom and
>> Hughes and Sandberg and Blackford are everywhere, in person and in print,
>> while Max is... less so (except, perhaps tangentially, in the business
>> community). Hence, it hardly seems necessary to invoke a conspiracy to
>> explain why the active and visible representatives of transhumanism get more
>> attention--and have more sway, assuming they do.
>>
>> The >H READER might change this, when and if it appears.
>>
>> Damien Broderick
>>
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