[ExI] transhumanism as a philosophy

[natasha at natasha.cc]

This not what you are specifically looking for; but here is a tree  
with identifiers http://www.natasha.cc/transhumantree.htm  I designed  
this a few years ago when building a theory for transhumanism.  I have  
since changed my mind on some of the links. I would add download,  
upload and whole brain emulation and instead of noosphere, for  
example, I would not use connective agency or something similar to that.

Natasha



Quoting bret at bonfireproductions.com:

>
> Perhaps this is a good time to jump in, granted it is with a point that
> some may be tired of considering, but would help I think. This may even
> have been the intent on Giulio's bumper sticker.
>
> If we were to render things down, is it possible to make a tree that
> starts with the most basic Transhuman tenants and work out where the
> branches are that would be considered Extropian or other flavors, that
> could also include where they overlap?
>
> It would help a great deal with propagation, and we've got a societal
> chasm to cross at this point.
>
> What would be #1?
>
> Any thoughts?
>
>
> Quoting natasha at natasha.cc:
>
>> Quoting Giulio Prisco <giulio at gmail.com>:
>>
>>> Believe me Natasha, I perfectly understand your reaction. But Damien's
>>> "accusation" is not an accusation, but a statement of fact.
>>
>> I think you misread Damien's message.  He said: "Hence, it hardly seems
>> necessary to invoke a conspiracy to explain why ..."  I did not invoke
>> a conspiracy. I was recalling what had transpired and which is well
>> known as a matter of Fact.
>>
>> I have been a big cheerleader and a pain in the neck to get Max up and
>> running again and I am clearly and most definitely not in denial about
>> his absence and the absence of all the frick'n hard work. THAT IS A
>> FACT.
>>
>>
>>> It is a fact that others have taken advantage of the perceived absence
>>> of Max and the Extropy Institute, and promoted their favorite
>>> interpretation of transhumanism as _the_ interpretation of
>>> transhumanism.
>>
>> Yes, this is very true.
>>
>>> I and many others are not satisfied with this.
>>
>> Yes, this is very true.
>>
>>> There
>>> are certainly many exciting transhumanist projects around, but without
>>> the central hub that the Extropy Institute represented.
>>
>> Yes, this is very true.
>>
>>> The question is, how to recover the spirit and practical organization
>>> of a few years ago.
>>
>> Some $$$ would be a great start. :-)
>>
>> N
>>
>>
>>>
>>> G.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 6:29 PM, Natasha Vita-More     
>>> <natasha at natasha.cc> wrote:
>>>> Oh for goodness sakes Damien.  I will wait for an apology for such a
>>>> unnecessary accusation.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Natasha
>>>> Natasha Vita-More
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org
>>>> [mailto:extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org] On Behalf Of Damien
>>>> Broderick
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 11:21 AM
>>>> To: ExI chat list
>>>> Cc: RussellBlackford
>>>> Subject: Re: [ExI] transhumanism as a philosophy
>>>>
>>>> On 6/22/2010 8:11 AM, Natasha Vita-More wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "The big special issues of JET that we published a year or two back
>>>>> are arguably the best intellectual resource that exists, and they
>>>>> should be referred to, but I don't see any common philosophical system
>>>> there."
>>>>>
>>>>> There is some truth to this, but it does not out-think "Extropy: A
>>>>> Journal of Transhumanist Thought". It is simply more academic in scope.
>>>>
>>>> JET is available to everyone in an instant at http://jetpress.org/ .
>>>> Despite my long interest and involvement in the topic, I have never seen a
>>>> copy, real or virtual, of "Extropy: A Journal of Transhumanist    
>>>> Thought," and
>>>> as I pointed out recently it doesn't appear to be accessible online. Bryan
>>>> urled to the Wayback Machine, but it isn't there either, it seems. The
>>>> Extropy Institute has been closed down for a long time now. Bostrom and
>>>> Hughes and Sandberg and Blackford are everywhere, in person and in print,
>>>> while Max is... less so (except, perhaps tangentially, in the business
>>>> community). Hence, it hardly seems necessary to invoke a conspiracy to
>>>> explain why the active and visible representatives of    
>>>> transhumanism get more
>>>> attention--and have more sway, assuming they do.
>>>>
>>>> The >H READER might change this, when and if it appears.
>>>>
>>>> Damien Broderick
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