[ExI] trutherism: was RE: Social aim for Transhumanism: > Better thinking about issues

[Keith Henson]

On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 12:39 AM,  samantha <sjatkins at mac.com> wrote:

> Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 14:35:22 -0700
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>        Better thinking about issues
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> AlgaeNymph wrote:
>> spike wrote:
>>> So perhaps part of the reason trutherism got so much mileage is due
>>> to the
>>> rumor that a fuel oil fire doesn't get hot enough to melt steel (and so
>>> explosives must have been present.)  Technically true, but it doesn't
>>> need
>>> to *melt* the steel, only soften it like warm butter.  A fuel-air
>>> fire sure
>>> as hell gets hot enough to soften steel, sufficient to cause burning
>>> buildings to collapse.
>> Actually, I remember this being one of the first things brought up.
>
> It does not burn hot enough to melt or significantly weaken skyscraper
> still.  That is a fact.  It has been proven even in fires that burned
> much longer for 24 hours.  Steel does not become like warm butter at
> those temperatures.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/object/article?o=0&f=/c/a/2007/04/29/BAGVOPHQU46.DTL

This fire burned less than an hour.

Keith