[ExI] Flash of insight...

[ablainey at aol.com]

 What if the positional perception is related to neural pathway length. So the nerves which have the lowest latency and presumably get more run time time accordingly create a positional reference for the brain rather than a simple weighting of the senses.
That is why I ask about the cortically blind. Ideally I would like to know where the 'I' is for someone who is blind, deaf and has no sense of smell or taste. How you would ever communicate such an abstract question to such a person is beyond me.

The camera on a stick is akin to the snail however this only shows visual perception of position. I can change that perception by putting the TV on or playing a FPS game and it doesn't effect where I percieve myself when my eyes are closed. 
I don't the 'I' as being meaningless. Imagine an upload scenario where your consciousness is stored in a black box in some safe vault while a robot you goes out wandering the universe. If you are correct then you will 'feel' that you are out there doing all those things. However if the 'I' is a perception created by latency of input, you would feel the remoteness of your robot body. yes? You might as well be wetware sitting in a vault operating an avatar via VR.
thus my interest in the issue which isn't as simple as it seems.


 


 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Ben Zaiboc <bbenzai at yahoo.com>
To: extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org
Sent: Wed, Nov 3, 2010 1:07 pm
Subject: Re: [ExI] Flash of insight...


ablainey at aol.com wrote:



...

> This might show if the 'I' position is

> created by a physical reference to the sensory input

> or by the physical position of the brain itself. Do

> snails percieve themselves to be at a point

> somewhere between their eye stalks or in thier

> heads?





How could it be related to the physical position of

the brain?



You don't know where your brain is unless someone

tells you or you read it in a book, or extrapolate

from where someone else's is.  There is no direct

perception of the position of your brain, unlike, say,

your stomach.



The whole concept of the 'I' position is meaningless

anyway.  All you can say is where your current

/viewpoint/ is.  The feeling of being somewhere is

solely a product of your senses, and can change very

easily.



I particularly liked Spike's idea for locating your

awareness behind and above your own head, using a

camera on a pole.



Ben Zaiboc





      

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