[ExI] don't let your guard down, not for a minute...
santostasigio at yahoo.com
Sat Sep 11 04:19:04 UTC 2010
There is no money, no want, no poverty, no crime, no disease or
ignorance in human society; everyone works for the advancement of all
humanity--as well as the rest of the Federation.
I like it, even if it a dream or a show. Yeah, a distraction created by capitalistic Hollywood..but still.... Let's make it so.
--- On Fri, 9/10/10, samantha <sjatkins at mac.com> wrote:
From: samantha <sjatkins at mac.com>
Subject: Re: [ExI] don't let your guard down, not for a minute...
To: "ExI chat list" <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>
Date: Friday, September 10, 2010, 8:59 PM
On 9/10/10 4:13 PM, giovanni santostasi wrote:
I agree that on the
book communism is a far superior social organization than
Based on what exactly? On what "book"?
exploitation as a key element by design.
False. Only freely entered trades and other contracts are allowed.
No initiation of force including fraud is allowed.
In a way the fact
that many people enjoy a modest level of benefits from
capitalistic society is 1) the result of non capitalistic
forces achieving rights for the individual 2) a clever
form of exploitation similar to the roman emperors slogan
"give them bread and entertainment and the people would be
submissive". It simply makes us better consumers to be
given crumbles of the big pie so we happily exploited and
Empty assertions with neither argument or evidence.
Of course, so far
any real mass-scale communism experiment has failed
mostly because has been hijacked by tyrannical figures
that used communism as a cover up.
Or it is broken by design as I and many others contend including
many who are former communists.
Communism is a very
idealistic approach to society, that if maybe unpractical
(at least given the level of development of humans at this
point) shares a lot with the transhumanist ideal of life.
If the "ideal" is not at all based in reality then how can it be
ideal for producing the best living systems of real human beings? A
system that would work only for some poorly defined quite different
beings than what humans are deserves scathing contempt - not
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