[ExI] Best metric for gauging progress towards the singularity?

Brent Allsop brent.allsop at canonizer.com
Sat Sep 25 19:17:05 UTC 2010

Welcome Omar,

Yes, it would be great to know more about you.

Very interesting topic.  About the best way I have of thinking about 
things is critical milestones such as:

1.    Scientific discovery of how the ineffable phenomenal qualities of 
consciousness relate to their neural correlates.   Ultimately this will 
lead to conscious effing of the ineffable, unification and expansion of 
our phenomenal conscious minds.  It will allow us to realize what we, or 
our phenomenal 'spirits' are (as defined and predicted in the expert 
consensus 'Representational Qualia Theory' camp here 
http://canonizer.com/topic.asp/88/6 )  Of course, once we objectively 
discover the phenomenal nature of reality and how our knowledge of 
ourselves is represented by such, our conscious knowledge of ourselves 
will finally be able to phenomenally escape from the mortal spirit veil 
of perception prison walls that are our skull.  Of course, achieving 
this, as predicted by this expert consensus camp, solves most all of our 
problems from mortality to still being stuck with primitive animalistic, 
slow static, unable to really communicate minds (the cause of war and 
all other problems).

2.    When the last person dies.  (the mortality rate finally reaches 0)

3.    Every  human and memory is finally restored and 'resurected'.

Who knows how long each of these will take.  Many probably doubt the 
possibility of ever achieving  number 3.  But I bet we are on the virge 
of number one, which I believe will be the greatest world changing 
scientific achievement of all time.  The biggest problem we are facing, 
is communicating what the expert consensus already knows (as is being 
proved by the consciousness survey project at canonizer.com), to 
everyone else and the real nuts and bolts researchers looking at the 
neurons and funding the research of such.

Looking forward to finding out more about what you think of all such.

Brent Allsop

On 9/24/2010 11:17 AM, spike wrote:
>> ...On Behalf Of Omar Rahman
>> Subject: [ExI] Best metric for gauging progress towards the
>> singularity?
>> This is my first post here. A link to a video from The Onion:
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdCnUCN83-k
>> Watch the ticker at the 1:00 mark.
>> That was the fun part...
> Thanks for the Onion link Omar.  Plenty of good geek humor in that one.
> {8^D
>> ...I look at the Singularity as the next
>> step in evolution  following, roughly, a chain like this:
>> chance outcomes 			(early RNA formation...
>> ...
>> engineering ourselves			(Singularity!)
>> How fast can we adapt to change? And how well can we engineer it?...
> Regards, Omar Rahman
> This rough outline is good, and illustrates in a way a comment I made last
> week.  We should work on these kinds of roadmaps, for they have value.  What
> I have been recognizing (to my distress) recently is that the time
> associated with these steps is completely unpredictable.  Even if these
> steps take place more or less in order, we have no way of guessing how long
> any of the steps will take.
> So far, we are sketching a map with no scale.  I have no suggestions on how
> to derive a scale.
> Welcome Omar.  Tell us something about Omar if you wish.  {8-]
> spike
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