[ExI] Lethal future was Watson on NOVA

Alfio Puglisi alfio.puglisi at gmail.com
Thu Feb 17 17:52:13 UTC 2011

On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 6:08 PM, Keith Henson <hkeithhenson at gmail.com>wrote:

> On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 12:38 AM,  Eugen Leitl <eugen at leitl.org> wrote:
> > On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 03:13:18PM -0500, David Lubkin wrote:
> >
> >> I'm still pissed at Sagan for his hubris in sending a message to the
> >> stars without asking the rest of us first, in blithe certainty that "of
> >> course" any recipient would have evolved beyond aggression and
> >> xenophobia.
> >
> > The real reasons if that they would be there you'd be dead, Jim.
> > In fact, if any alien picks up the transmission (chance: very close
> > to zero) they'd better be farther advanced than us, and on a
> > faster track. I hope it for them.
> I have been mulling this over for decades.
> We look out into the Universe and don't (so far) see or hear any
> evidence of technophilic civilization.
> I see only two possibilities:
> 1)  Technophilics are so rare that there are no others in our light cone.
> 2)  Or if they are relatively common something wipes them *all* out,
> or, if not wiped out, they don't do anything which indicates their
> presence.

There are a couple of solutions that basically deny that the rest of the
Universe is real:

3) the simulation argument

4) you're a Boltzmann brain

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