[ExI] Call To Libertarians

[Darren Greer]

One of the ideas was that it was a place where
> we didn't have to defend or explain the fundamentals. And the dominant
> sentiment was that anarcho-capitalist libertarianism was one of them.
>
> I recognize the drift from that here over the years,

I'm a newcomer to the group, David. Only a year, and like most, I came by
drawing my own conclusions based on experience and observation and so by the
time I got here I knew some of the fundamentals. The rest I learned quickly.
The subtleties and incidentals, however, eluded me for some time and often
still do.

Politics--and economics--are two elusive issues that are often obliquely
referenced here that I still haven't got a handle on. One of the first
threads I became interested in was on patent and intellectual property
rights, and though no one informed me this group used to have a libertarian
bent, I could certainly sense the tendency in some of those early
discussions.

I also understand that political discussions were for a time here verboten
because of some messiness that had occurred in the past. I'm glad that's not
the case now. I believe politics, and particularly the economic outlooks
that come with them, could not be more relevant to the transhumanist schema,
if we can be said to have one (or two, or three.) I'm glad the list has come
to a place where we can discuss these things without acrimony or prejudice.
For my part, I'm just trying to understand.

d.

On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 2:20 PM, Eugen Leitl <eugen at leitl.org> wrote:

> On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 12:10:25PM -0500, David Lubkin wrote:
> > Darren wrote:
> >
> >> I understand there are some libertarians in this group.
> >
> > It's surreal to read this. I was one of the earliest of subscribers to
> > the original extropian list, twenty or so years ago. I was delighted to
>
> Does the list go back to 1990, or was there a dialup BBS before?
>
> It's too bad we cannot read the early archives, but I understand
> why.
>
> > join and help build a community that shared so many of my (even then)
> > long-standing interests. One of the ideas was that it was a place where
> > we didn't have to defend or explain the fundamentals. And the dominant
> > sentiment was that anarcho-capitalist libertarianism was one of them.
> >
> > I recognize the drift from that here over the years, and the reasons for
> > it, but your posting still feels weird. Like someone saying "I
> > understand there are some Jews in Israel."
> >
> > I guess the paleo-extropian label is appropriate; it's easy to feel like
> > a living fossil.
>
> It's nice to be a part of one of the longer-lived Internet communities.
>
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