[ExI] atheists declare religions as scams.

[Natasha Vita-More]

 Sondre wrote:
 
" No religion are sane. Religions are invalid as basis for morality, as the
morality in all religions are not based upon realities in the world and
doesn't stand up to scientific scrutiny. " 
 
I disagree.  Some religions offer a cultural perspective of a tribe's
history and mythic lore.  And many contain moral views, which are deeply
based on the real world.  It would be difficult to say whether they stand up
to scientific scrutiny, but it would be difficult to say that transhumanism
stands up to scientific scrutiny,  or cyberculture,  or feminism, etc.

 " Religions is the mechanism of which to get people to submit their lives
to rude and evil beings, of which then the leaders of each religion can
manipulate their masses at will. " 
 
All religions?  All leaders of religions?  All masses?  


 " Yet you are right, it's not far fetched that religious individuals can
believe anything, even in evolution. Believing has nothing to do with
understandability, truth and right. " 
 
Believing does involve understandability, truth and right.  
 
Many religions offer a elements of good judgment, however based on myth.
 
Natasha  


2011/1/7 Samantha Atkins <sjatkins at mac.com>





There are many many flavors of Christian - some are actually pretty sane.
:)   Mainstream Christianity for a while was denatured of all that biblical
literalism and thought many things were mostly symbolic, for instance.  Then
we got the fundamentalist resurgence - in my opinion partially as reaction
to Future Shock.  

If you hold that it is possible within the laws of physics of this universe
to run multiple virtual universes then you believe in principle that it is
possible for an entire universe to have a creator.   You also believe in
principle that things that apparently violate the physics of such a virtual
universe can be done by those controlling the simulating machinery.  And of
course you believe that genetic algorithms could be used to develop beings
of all kinds tuned to parts of this virtual universe.    So yeah,  a
Christian that understands and affirms evolution is not that far fetched.


- samantha


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