[ExI] Libertarianism wins again...

Dan dan_ust at yahoo.com
Wed Jul 20 21:23:14 UTC 2011


The cnceit is that individuals can control the state in that way. In Europe, there were classical liberals and American-style libertarians who do not share your view. They just happen to be a small and not often heard minority.
 
There is also some other complications here too. For example, some Europeans nation states are thought of by their subjects or victims and outsiders as being socialist or far less free market than, say, the US, yet many of them are actually more market-oriented than other nation states and, in some respects, than the US. So, people will point to, say, Sweden and shout, "It works!" not realizing that Sweden, overall, is far more market-oriented than most of the world, despite its vast welfare state.
 
Regards,
 
Dan
From: Stefano Vaj <stefano.vaj at gmail.com>
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2011/7/20 spike <spike66 at att.net>

Will, this comment does fail to reassure me that controlling forces will be benevolent. 
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Liberals and libertarians alike in the US seem invariably concerned with the relationship between the State and the citizens. 

The European approach to "emancipation" is more oriented, indeed across the entire political spectrum, towards being the citizens who control the State rather than the citizens who are controlled by the State. :-)


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Stefano Vaj
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