[ExI] Libertarianism wins again...

[Stefano Vaj]

2011/7/25 Dan <dan_ust at yahoo.com>

> For the record, I don't believe that's what Socrates believed -- if Plato's
> works are any guide. It seems to me he believed there were moral truths that
> were discoverable by reason and that were not inventions of the gods (or
> God), social convention, or the state. (One need not agree with his
> particular moral claims here or even with his particular methods to agree
> with this wider point.)
>

Does not change much, does it? The real issue is whether one believes in
self-determination and diversity or in value systems which are allegedly
eternal and universal, irrespective of whether they are revealed (albeit
obviously not established) by God, by inner outrage or by Reason.

Let us say that anti-transhumanists are invariably in the second camp, and
they may play one or another of such cards depending on their background or
audience, "inner outrage" and "puck factor" being however especially
fashionable in recent days.


>
>  *From:* Damien Broderick <thespike at satx.rr.com>
> *To:* ExI chat list <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>
> *Sent:* Friday, July 22, 2011 5:15 PM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [ExI] Libertarianism wins again...
>
> On 7/22/2011 3:12 PM, Kelly Anderson wrote:
>
> > Socrates made good arguments that
> > what is right and wrong doesn't come from God or the state, but from
> > an inner state of outrage at the criminal act.
>
> Ah, sturdy foundations of outrage such as "Those stinking disgusting
> ho-mo-sex-uals make me *puke*! Get the pitch and pitchfork, Mabel!"
>
> Damien Broderick
>
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Stefano Vaj
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