[ExI] Alcor dumping "grandfathering"?

[Max More]

Eugene: If you don't want to discuss this publically, fine, but let me know
privately what you find dyfunctional. Since I've only been on the job for a
few months and many positive changes have already been made and more are
underway, I don't understand why you dismiss my ability to improve things.
Perhaps you have been reading too much of Darwin's blog, which is replete
with lies, distortions, exaggerations, and out of context statements, with a
few truths mixed in. Other than that, I can't understand why you would make
such a negative judgment.

And, sheesh, what's wrong with talking of "going on the offensive" with
boosting membership growth?

--Max

On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 2:48 AM, Eugen Leitl <eugen at leitl.org> wrote:

> On Thu, Sep 01, 2011 at 06:31:55PM -0400, Mike Dougherty wrote:
> > On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 3:36 AM, Samantha Atkins <sjatkins at mac.com>
> wrote:
> > > I hope that is a joke.  It seems to border on hyper-sensitive to me.
> > [snip]
> > > Yes, some of the world is indeed that anal.  Why does that mean we
> should be?
> >
> > I'm not suggesting that I was disturbed by those words.  There have
> > been other threads about Alcor advising careful word choice (or
> > discussion topics) because the archives are public, indexed &
> > discoverable by those outside "our group."
>
> I typically abstain from critizing organisations, but it's pretty
> obvious that Alcor, which I used to recommend, is no longer worth
> the membership money. I really hoped that Max (whom I personally
> respect and consider a friend) would be the white knight in
> shining armor to slay the dysfunctionality dragon but it apparently
> won't be on his watch. Arguably, Alcor is sufficiently dysfunctional
> that it can't be salvaged from within, and we'll have an alternative
> organisation eventually ready to take its place (unlikely, but in
> theory possible).
>
> You don't have to agree; just take this as my assessment at this point.
> And, no, I will not descend into specifics in public.
>
> Should Max or his successors manage the wondrous deed I will revise it,
> of course.
>
> > I also wouldn't want to make a big deal about it either.  In the vein
> > of the Max More Turing test, I would not have expected real Max to use
> > that colloquialism.  Maybe I should be less sensitive to writing
> > style.
>
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Max More
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Co-editor, *The Transhumanist Reader*
CEO, Alcor Life Extension Foundation
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