[ExI] apple mothership

Dave Sill sparge at gmail.com
Wed Sep 14 15:18:36 UTC 2011


2011/9/14 Amon Zero <amon at doctrinezero.com>

> 2011/9/14 Dave Sill <sparge at gmail.com>
>
>> 2011/9/14 Amon Zero <amon at doctrinezero.com>
>>
>>> In other words, rationality is not the sole measure of utility or
>>> meaning.
>>
>>
>> No, but as a general rule, I think it's a good start. And I think
>> irrationality ought to be avoided whenever possible--there's already plenty
>> to go around.
>>
>
>
> I certainly wouldn't argue with that!
>
> The thing that winds me up personally (and not saying you did this) is when
> people conflate rationality and a deliberately linear, colourless worldview.
> It is of course possible to be both rational and enjoy life in its
> multi-coloured weirdness at the same time, hence my stab at something that
> might be an approach toward answering Spike's question. We've all seen
> overtly rationalist pseudo-prayers which are usually quite bland and
> thoroughly un-inspiring, and I've often wondered what could be done with a
> little more creativity thrown into the mix.
>

Yep, I agree completely. Rational doesn't mean bland and/or boring.


> That said, one thing I particularly like about your comment Dave (that "a
> pledge to support some idea or endeavour" would be better than an empty
> 'prayer') is that it has an emphasis on action. That's certainly something I
> can thoroughly get behind!
>

Thanks. The pledge has lots of room for creativity and inspiration and the
level of support can range from "I won't oppose this" to "I'll do anything I
can to support it"--it could even be specific and legally-binding.

-Dave
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