[ExI] [atlantis_II] Ether vs. Relativity

Dennis May dennislmay at yahoo.com
Sun Sep 25 03:24:36 UTC 2011


I agree.
 
Dennis

From: Dan Ust <dan_ust at yahoo.com>
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Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2011 3:44 PM
Subject: Re: [ExI] [atlantis_II] Ether vs. Relativity


Not saying I agree with, but that's interesting and I think akin to Descartes view of the matter. (Cartesian materialism, anyone?) 
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>I can see how basing fields that way (not a new idea, of course) can be viewed as the solution to many problems. 
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>I also see this as an update of Greek atomism. Do you agree?
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>Regards,
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>Dan
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>On Sep 23, 2011, at 9:39 PM, Dennis May <dennislmay at yahoo.com> wrote:
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>I wrote:
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>>> I support an aether based relativity. The Lorentz-Poincaré
>>> idea of what would compose an aether is not the kind of
>>> aether I would support but the basics are there for
>>> expanding and changing the theory for a different kind
>>> of aether theory. I have discussed this type of aether
>>> elsewhere - primarily on physics_frontier on YahooGroups.
>>> This aether is composed of vast numbers of particles much
>>> much smaller than the smallest known subatomic particles. 
>>> They travel much much faster than the speed of light. There
>>> is also a sea of very low energy photons in this background.  
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>>Dan Ust wrote:
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>>> Is you view that this must be particle-based to banish fields 
>>> from physics? Or why do you believe there are really tiny 
>>> particles? Is this akin to Ancient Greek atomism? (Not trying 
>>> to be sarcastic, but wondering if this is all based on some of 
>>> local contact being the fundamental way things interact in 
>>> your view.)
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>>It is my view that all fields are composed of particles and some
>>kind of local contact.  Every attempt to get away from particle 
>>based fields has eventually run into dead ends, the requirement
>>for endless epicycles, or stagnation where different portions of
>>physics cannot be reconciled.
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>>Dennis May__,_._,___
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