[ExI] Wrestling with Embodiment

Natasha Vita-More natasha at natasha.cc
Sun Jan 22 14:47:44 UTC 2012

> I think the idea of 'disembodiment' needs to be clarified before going any

"It sounds like the typical hangup of a science-challenged
philosopher. All computation is embodied. No atoms, no
metabolism, no computation. No computation, no person."

:-)  (Although Hayes is not a philosopher.  She is a postmodern literary
critic. Philosophers would be far more skeptic and positioned. She doesn't
really claim a position other than to criticize and then let others draw
their own conclusions (well ... after she has criticized, readers pat
postmodernism on the back).)

> Does it mean, as Anders suggests, dispensing with or changing our original
> bodies, or does it mean literally eliminating all embodiment, whether it
be physical 
> or some virtual representation? (which is something that I think is not
actually possible)

"I agree that it does not make much sense. If you remove the sensors
and actuators, whether physical or virtual (like mining the math face), 
the result appears pathological."

Like a Escher hand erasing itself.


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