[ExI] Bringing new life to dead matter

Will Steinberg steinberg.will at gmail.com
Fri May 25 20:15:15 UTC 2012

I disagree with his ascription of consciousness to humans only.  I believe
consciousness is a byproduct of energy flows intricately related to
entropy/complexity. The annihilation of complements provides energy and
entropy, and this is the forge of conscious perception and experience.  We
can only perceive of consciousness on neurological time scales, but I have
been questioning recently whether we are in the looooong cognition of
"Gaia" through breeding and selection, as gods small and large, planets and
humans, learn about themselves through the lens of the complement.
Obviously we can't cogitate Gaia thoughts as a neuron cannot cogitate human
On May 25, 2012 2:43 PM, "Kelly Anderson" <kellycoinguy at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Max More <max at maxmore.com> wrote:
> > Interesting to see this piece on Spiked Online:
> > http://www.spiked-online.com/site/earticle/12470/
> Seems like someone has been paying attention. :-)
> I especially liked the insight that equilibrium is death and that the
> gospel of sustainability is a play for equilibrium. That seems like an
> especially important idea. While conservation is to be admired when it
> can be achieved, in the long term it isn't the solution.
> I disagree with his assertion that only nuclear power can see us
> forward... I think solar photovoltaics also have the potential to meet
> the need. Other than that, I thought the article was pretty dead on.
> The humans as grey goo argument was also interesting.
> -Kelly
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