[ExI] riots again

Giulio Prisco giulio at gmail.com
Mon Oct 1 10:55:30 UTC 2012


I totally agree with PJ, no arguments ever changed anyone's politics,
and no arguments ever will. Primary values and political color are
basically aesthetic preferences, mainly determined by emotions. Real
politics is all about acknowledging that there are deep differences
between (even well-meaning) people's colors, and finding workable ways
to live together in a society.

On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 6:02 AM, PJ Manney <pjmanney at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 3:12 PM, F. C. Moulton <moulton at moulton.com> wrote:
>>
>> PJ, thanks for elevating the level of discourse.
>
> Fred, I don't think it did any good...  Hell, I didn't even get a
> response, except from you.  Thank you.  At least I know I'm not dead.
>
> Seriously, the political trolling on this list is why I relegate it to
> my Gmail trash automatically.  I dumpster dive a couple of times a
> week to see if anything is worth responding to.  Sadly, when the
> trolls are out, little is.  Maybe my tolerance is low because my
> testosterone is lower than most of yours.  I don't need to lock horns
> or beat my chest to feel good about myself.
>
> I understand that society entails politics and changes in society
> involve politics.  But as we all should know, our little futurist
> world skews to the margins: the social democrats and the libertarians.
>  Or as you like to call each other, the socialists and the fascists.
> ;-)  But no matter how you argue, you can't change people's politics.
> It's the water they swim in, the glasses they see the world through,
> insert your own trite cliché here.  Life experience can shift it, but
> arguing can't.  But again -- you all know this.  Or at least that
> understanding should come preinstalled with your knowledge of
> neuropsychology before you comment on this list.  And if you don't
> know it, please study up.  Your ignorance is tiring us out.
>
> So why does Extropy Chat continue to have these fights?  Some of our
> nimblest minds are relegated to flinging dung.  (Although Anders
> rarely flings anything but diamonds...)  You already drove away Damien
> and several others.  Do you want to alienate the rest?  I only hang on
> for the occasional tasty tidbit.  But I'm starving, man...
>
> So please: stop feeding the trolls and lets give each other something
> to work with.  Like the latest research in anything Extropian.  Or
> flights of "what if" fancy, like the old days.  Or robots!  Everyone
> loves robots...  ;-P <that is sarcasm, but I do love robots>
>
> PJ
>
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