[ExI] riots again
stefano.vaj at gmail.com
Tue Oct 2 17:33:17 UTC 2012
On 1 October 2012 20:50, Mirco Romanato <painlord2k at libero.it> wrote:
> Il 01/10/2012 18:55, Stefano Vaj ha scritto:
> Indeed. Heck, for Hiroshima bombing US media did not refrain to
>> provide stuff to the general public, even though the mid-term
>> consequences were more horrifying than Allied or German bombing in
>> Europe during WWII.
> What mid-term consequences?
> Anyway, the near-term consequences of the A-bombs used was to spare
> two-millions lives of US soldiers AND a greater number of Japanese lives.
> Without A-bombs Japan would not surrender, the Japan occupied
> territories would continue for months to be occupied, with much more
> people dead by famine or killed. The Soviets would enter in the war
> against Japan and occupy a large part of East Asia.
I was not debating whether using A-bombs or V2 was a strategically (or
morally) good idea or not. Just saying that the damages of bombing are
usually spectacular enought for the media to be interested.
What part of this is not clear?
> "for tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter" by Yusuf Ali
> "The sin of disbelief in God is greater than committing murder." by Sarwar
> "Though killing is bad, creating mischief is worse than killing."
> "for temptation to idolatry is more grievous than slaughter"
> "for civil discord is worse than carnage"
I always took it as an emphatic "even worse", the slaughter of the faithful
being more than enough to justify rioting in itself for old-time muslims.
Well, they are gone. There are any Arab Nationalist (read Arab National
> Socialists) left in the Middle East? Syria is the left-over and it is not
> sure it will last long.
True. Even though you put together the true facts that they cared for
independence (hey, George Washington also did!) and were not too
enthusiastic about local feodalism or neo-colonial capitalism in a single
expression which for historical reasons has some derogatory connotations
for many of us... :-)
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