[ExI] riots again

John Clark johnkclark at gmail.com
Fri Oct 5 20:35:47 UTC 2012

On Fri, Oct 5, 2012  David Lubkin <lubkin at unreasonable.com> wrote:

> Fred wrote:
>  "Decade after decade the USA has gone messing around in that part of the
>> world causing all kinds of problems and getting a lot of people angry.
>>  Then the politicians are shocked, shocked that a few people decide that
>> terrorism is the best path."
> This does not imply that Fred advocates being "nice to moronic religious
> terrorists."

I rather think it does.

> >There are several alternatives. Since Fred is libertarian, I suspect his
> thought is non-interventionism.

Yes, his thought is do nothing no matter what, and that policy would be
suicidal for Western culture and probably for him personally. I'm a
libertarian too but being a libertarian does not turn one into a idiot, or
at least it shouldn't; libertarian or not I know when somebody is trying to
kill me.

> >  he postulates that if we stayed out of other countries, no one would
> have any particular reason to attack us.

Yes exactly as I said, he postulates that if you're nice to moronic
religious terrorists then moronic religious terrorists will be nice to you.

> We would be neither nice to moronic religious terrorists nor attacking
> them because it has nothing to do with us.

Nothing to do with us? Osama bin Laden made it very clear in February 1998
that it did have something to do with us when he said:

"To kill the Americans and their allies, civilians and military, is an
individual duty for every Muslim who can do it in any country in which it
is possible to do it"

And 6 months later he made it clear he wasn't just talk when he bombed 2
American embassies in Africa and killed 223 people, and 2 years after that
when he attacked and nearly sunk the USS Cole and killed 17 sailors and
said to his son "the pieces of the bodies of infidels were flying like dust
particles. If you would have seen it with your own eyes, you would have
been very pleased, and your heart would have been filled with joy", or a
year after that when he murdered 3000 American civilians during 911. And a
government that was openly protecting Osama bin Laden, as Afghanistan was
in 2001, had something very much to do with us.

  John K Clark

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