[ExI] Bruce Klein

Giulio Prisco giulio at gmail.com
Tue Oct 30 19:31:00 UTC 2012


Giovanni, I don't know if this applies to this specific case, but the
majority of thieves steal because they need money to eat. Only some
thieves steal because of greed. Often they don't go to jail, and reach
top positions instead.

On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 7:43 PM, Giovanni Santostasi
<gsantostasi at gmail.com> wrote:
> I admire the support of the community for Bruce (that I don't know
> personally) in this difficult moment. I approve of the idea of giving people
> second and third chances and not to be too judgmental. But to continue to
> repeat that "he did it because he needed badly the money" is something we
> should not do.
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> I think the transhumanism movement is already something that people consider
> suspicious if not evil per se (often people point to some  transhumanists
> connections with satanist organizations), while we see ourselves as the
> heralds of a better world (not just from a material point of view but also
> cognitive, moral and spiritual).
>
> Saying things like "he did it because he needed the money" seems almost
> justifying a thief's actions that I'm sure it is not the impression we want
> to give.
>
> Giovanni
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> On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 12:59 PM, Cryonica <kryonica at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I am also very, very fond of Bruce and Susan and even if Bruce has done
>> something he should not have done this will not alter my sincere sympathy
>> for him.  He is genuine transhumanist and cryonicist, a very brilliant guy
>> who has done a lot to spread the memes of the Immortality Institute and this
>> should be kept in mind when judging him.  I am sure that if he has stolen
>> money, then it is because he desperately needs it, possibly because being so
>> active a transhumanist he has not had the time to work for a career as well.
>> Like Aubrey he is too involved with the future to earn a proper living and
>> if Susan and he are planning a family this may create a difficult situation
>> for them.
>>
>> On 30 Oct 2012, at 16:37, John Grigg wrote:
>>
>>> DAMN!!!  I am shocked to the core to say the least, since I considered
>>> Bruce Klein a good friend, who I had gotten to know over the years at
>>> various conferences.  But I believe that when people are at their most
>>> unlovable, that's when they need to be shown love the most, however trite it
>>> may sound.  I hope Susan is okay!
>>>
>>>
>>> John
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