[ExI] God's God

[ilsa]

Spike,
The intersection of where you choose to put your mind is consciousness.
Your digital intrigue with value, and the very sun light moving particles
of dust on the breeze which finds its way up your nose, are all
consciousness.
"... Consciousness is the way data feels like when it is being processed.
(I think) Consciousness is fundamental." ~ John K Clark

The Gaia, as a construction, functions to keep the consensual habits in
place ... Doing Shit Jobs and worrying about Gaia.

John Gregg turned out to be the light at the goal posts....

Consciousness is so simple.... The time I spent with Bob Thruman, as a
student, in Washington NJ Tibetan Buddhist Center, discussing which part of
the table is the leg pays off! I do not feel very comfortable writing to
this group because I do not have academic writing skills... Please don't
nail me to the wall.
Robert Thurman is the Je
Tsongkhapa<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Je_Tsongkhapa> Professor
of Indo- <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/India>Tibetan<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tibet>
Buddhist
Studies at Columbia
University<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbia_University>.
He still wags his finger at me to complete my assigned project.

Ilsa Bartlett
Institute for Rewiring the System
http://ilsabartlett.wordpress.com
http://www.google.com/profiles/ilsa.bartlett
www.hotlux.com/angel.htm

"Don't ever get so big or important that you can not hear and listen to
every other person."
-John Coltrane


On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 11:14 AM, spike <spike66 at att.net> wrote:

> >> > …What do you think causes consciousness?  (Hint: the entire universe
> is conscious)****
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> extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org] *On Behalf Of *ilsa
> *Sent:* Saturday, August 24, 2013 10:29 AM
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> *Subject:* Re: [ExI] God's God****
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> >…Good for you Will. And thank you. Some years ago I hinted at this and
> was dropped kicked through the goal posts.
> Will, there is habitual resistance too.
> Smile, Ilsa****
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> Ilsa, you make it sound like a bad thing.  Being kicked through the goal
> posts is a goal.****
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> The way I would go with it is to ask the question, are you conscious?  If
> you answer yes, is it you that is conscious, or just your brain?  If you
> answer only your brain is conscious, and the rest of it is supporting
> machinery, is it your whole brain, or just your frontal lobes that are
> conscious?  Then you see where I am going, for I will next ask: which
> synapses and which dendrites are the conscious ones?  All of those always?
> How many of the conscious ones does it take to be conscious?   And so on.*
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> So you can say, my smarter synapses are collectively conscious, my frontal
> lobes are conscious, my brain, my self, my family, my species are all
> conscious, and the progression goes right on out to some undefined
> boundary, because other species besides humans are clearly conscious, and
> they have supporting machinery too, such as a life-friendly planet.  In
> that sense, the planet is conscious, and if there exists consciousness
> elsewhere in the galaxy, is that galaxy conscious?  What about the space in
> between?  Is that as conscious as the space between my smarter synapses in
> my frontal lobes?  What about the space between two conscious galaxies?
> The space within superclusters and the space between two superclusters?***
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> It all goes back to the most fundamental question: are we conscious?****
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> Goal?****
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> spike****
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