[ExI] far future
Anders Sandberg
anders at aleph.se
Mon Dec 30 09:30:34 UTC 2013
On 2013-12-30 02:34, William Flynn Wallace wrote:
> I am writing a book on the far future based on eugenics. Then,
> genetics has been nearly perfected and many changes have been made to
> humans, both physical and mental.
>
> I would like to find out fellow members' ideas on just what changes
> should be made in us if that were possible and discuss them. And yes,
> I might include them in my book and give you credit.
The problem here is "far future". If that were just 40 years, then
things are pretty simple: enough time for about two generations, social
mores are not going to be totally alien, people enhance for reasons we
recognize today, and biotechnology might be powerful but it is still
likely nowhere near the ultimate limits. But give things a few centuries
or millennia, and the book might be rather hard to read.
Are you going to base it on just biological changes? Because there is
only so far you can push biology, and everything needs to be retrofitted
to the existing mess. If you also include non-biological enhancements
like alternate biochemistry synthetic biology, implanted nanotechnology,
outsourced biology, not to mention external collective intelligence
(either from AI, smartly networked people or brain emulations) then
things can get *very* different and potentially alien, especially once
neurotechnology allow people to modify their minds. At that point not
only bodies but minds and kinds of individuals (if any) become cultural
artefacts.
Looking at what people today like to change, it is pretty clear that
people primarily want better health for their children (= likely early
enhancement). While people talk a lot about appearance and athletics in
regards to genetic change, I think the safe bet is that early aims will
be general purpose goods (intelligence, social skill, happiness,
longevity). The development speed is modulated by how quickly
enhancement of GPGs can actually be developed, safety tested and
evaluated - genetics is slow compared to medical implants, drugs or
software, and natural variations typically has small effect sizes. An
interesting issue I am currently looking into is moral enhancement (see
the work of Savulescu, Persson and Douglas), which might or might not be
very useful or very socially destabilizing. Note that already at this
point - a society with cohorts of smart, energetic and moral people -
the sociology gets rather alien.
Note that drastic morphologic change is unlikely to be popular among
mainstream parents: few parents today dress their kids as lizards
outside fancy dress parties, and most morphologic changes are too
specific to be useful. Better to implement them using surgery, implants,
attachments or external devices.
--
Dr Anders Sandberg
Future of Humanity Institute
Oxford Martin School
Oxford University
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