[ExI] More Fermi Paradox

Tomaz Kristan protokol2020 at gmail.com
Wed May 15 09:18:11 UTC 2013

Perhaps, if we start now, we can converge some space inflating dark energy
to energy. Using long ropes of a kind. Maybe, we should/could do just that.
Stop the spatial inflation of the Universe.

On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 11:12 AM, Anders Sandberg <anders at aleph.se> wrote:

> On 15/05/2013 09:16, Eugen Leitl wrote:
>> This doesn't compute, if you want to maximize computation before universe
>> winds itself down. So you'd go for a hard relativistic expansion as early
>> as possible, in order to get hold of as much spacetime as possible before
>> inflation makes most of it inaccessible.
> It looks like the primary thing is being born early: then you can grab a
> lot more, since the expansion was slower in the past and things were closer
> together. Old civs have a huge advantage. In the present era, speed beats
> starting time: in our calculations we found that getting an increment in
> speed was worth delaying starting for. If I remember right, going from 90%
> to 99% was worth a million year delay - in the end, that is a very small
> delay compared to the travel time.
>  You'd then maximize the computation utilization in order to render as
>> many experience-moments as possible, until the final curtain. Aiming for
>> anything less guarantees a half-assed job.
> It all depends on what the ultimate goal is. If it is experience-moments
> or pleasure, then spread far and wide and convert everything to
> computronium or hedonium. If the goal requires a cohesive big mind for a
> long time, then you only need a supercluster - the other stuff will become
> causally disconnected and cannot be part of your big mind.
> --
> Anders Sandberg,
> Future of Humanity Institute
> Oxford Martin School
> Faculty of Philosophy
> Oxford University
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