[ExI] Basic Income - Basic Housing?

[Kelly Anderson]

2nd Portly Gentleman <http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0455702/?ref_=tt_trv_qu>:
What may we put you down for, sir?

Scrooge <http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001215/?ref_=tt_trv_qu>: Nothing, sir.

1st Portly Gentleman <http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0290136/?ref_=tt_trv_qu>:
Ah, you wish to remain anonymous.

Scrooge <http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001215/?ref_=tt_trv_qu>: I wish to be
left alone, sir! That is what I wish! I don't make myself merry at
Christmas and I cannot afford to make idle people merry. I have been forced
to support the establishments I have mentioned through taxation and God
knows they cost more than they're worth. Those who are badly off must go
there.

2nd Portly Gentleman <http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0455702/?ref_=tt_trv_qu>:
Many would rather die than go there.

Scrooge <http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001215/?ref_=tt_trv_qu>: If they'd
rather die, then they had better do it and decrease the surplus population.
Good night, gentlemen.

[walks away, then turns back]

Scrooge <http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001215/?ref_=tt_trv_qu>: Humbug!


Maybe Scrooge had a point... ;-)


-Kelly


On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 10:27 AM, BillK <pharos at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 4:26 PM, spike  wrote:
> > BillK, it is done that way now: section 8 housing.  It does postpone the
> > problem.
> >
> > The solution as described in the link is one that has failed
> spectacularly
> > in places like Detroit Michigan: the housing projects get too dangerous.
> > You can go to some parts of Detroit today and have any house you want:
> > plenty of them are abandoned.  But the area itself is too dangerous for
> > human habitation.
> >
> > There are no mindbogglingly simple solutions to homelessness.  There are
> > some simple failed solutions however, and I predict they will be used
> again.
> >
> >
>
> After searching, there seem to be a lot of Housing Projects going on.
> Some failing, some reasonably successful.
>
> The Moore Place project has differences. It is single person
> accomodation for people who have been homeless for over a year (and
> usually have medical or disability problems). And it is Supportive
> Housing with on-site medical and social worker staff to help the
> residents. The residents are not left to fend for themselves, Because
> it is for single people, at a stroke that gets rid of all the family
> problems like domestic violence or child abuse. And the resident staff
> provide a protective environment.
>
> This seems to be rather different to handing out rent vouchers for
> people to give to cheap slum landlords in deprived, crime-ridden
> areas.
>
> Supportive Housing is more expensive, but the external cost savings
> pay for it, by reduced Medicare bills, police & jail costs, etc.).
>
> The full report is here:
> <http://shnny.org/images/uploads/Charlotte-Moore-Place-Study.pdf>
>
>
> BillK
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