[ExI] AI motivation, was malevolent machines

[John Clark]

On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 10:45 AM, William Flynn Wallace <foozler83 at gmail.com
> wrote:

> I rather think that I am a verb, doing something, rather than an
> adjective, just descriptive of something else.
>

An adverb perhaps because a verb like "ran" is just a scalar, in the real
world that would tell you little; you need a vector so you say "I ran
swiftly northeasterly". I associate adjectives and adverbs with information
but verbs with just energy, so I certainly hope you're wrong because if so
it would be impossible to be uploaded. But I don't think you're right
because if a correct description of how atoms are arranged is provided
there is no need to say what it's doing, the laws of physics will take care
of that.  And even if I know what you're doing now I still won't know what
you're going to do a minute from now or were doing a minute ago; but if I
know how all your atoms are arranged right now I would have a pretty good
idea of what you were doing in the past and could make a duplicate of you
that will do the same thing you are going to do a minute from now.

So the key thing that makes you you is not matter (nouns) or energy (verbs)
its information (adjectives and adverbs).

  John K Clark



  John K Clark









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>
> On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 10:36 AM, John Clark <johnkclark at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 1:51 PM, William Flynn Wallace <
>> foozler83 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > It still seems like there is a bit of dualism here, just a whiff,
>>>
>>
>> That's probably because I am indeed a dualist, that is to say I think
>> that nouns and adjectives are NOT the same. Your body is a thing made of
>> atoms and thus is a noun, but you are not a thing or even a noun; you are
>> an adjective, you are the way that atoms behave when they are organized in
>> a  Williamflynnwallaceian way. There are lots of green things but there are
>> far fewer Williamflynnwallaceian things, in fact at the present time there
>> is only one, but there is no law of physics that demands that always be the
>> case.
>>
>> > I am completely comfortable with the idea that consciousness is totally
>>> physical
>>>
>>
>> I am too, and I am comfortable with the idea that adjectives are the way
>> that physical things like nouns behave.
>>
>>   John K Clark
>>
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