[ExI] AI motivation, was malevolent machines

[William Flynn Wallace]

Thanks, I think.  You do know that I last had physics in 1959 and think a
vector is something related to disease spread?


On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 11:07 AM, John Clark <johnkclark at gmail.com> wrote:

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> On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 10:45 AM, William Flynn Wallace <
> foozler83 at gmail.com> wrote:
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> > I rather think that I am a verb, doing something, rather than an
>> adjective, just descriptive of something else.
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> An adverb perhaps because a verb like "ran" is just a scalar, in the real
> world that would tell you little; you need a vector so you say "I ran
> swiftly northeasterly". I associate adjectives and adverbs with information
> but verbs with just energy, so I certainly hope you're wrong because if so
> it would be impossible to be uploaded. But I don't think you're right
> because if a correct description of how atoms are arranged is provided
> there is no need to say what it's doing, the laws of physics will take care
> of that.  And even if I know what you're doing now I still won't know what
> you're going to do a minute from now or were doing a minute ago; but if I
> know how all your atoms are arranged right now I would have a pretty good
> idea of what you were doing in the past and could make a duplicate of you
> that will do the same thing you are going to do a minute from now.
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> So the key thing that makes you you is not matter (nouns) or energy
> (verbs) its information (adjectives and adverbs).
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>   John K Clark
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>   John K Clark
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>> On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 10:36 AM, John Clark <johnkclark at gmail.com>wrote:
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>>> On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 1:51 PM, William Flynn Wallace <
>>> foozler83 at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> > It still seems like there is a bit of dualism here, just a whiff,
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>>> That's probably because I am indeed a dualist, that is to say I think
>>> that nouns and adjectives are NOT the same. Your body is a thing made of
>>> atoms and thus is a noun, but you are not a thing or even a noun; you are
>>> an adjective, you are the way that atoms behave when they are organized in
>>> a  Williamflynnwallaceian way. There are lots of green things but there are
>>> far fewer Williamflynnwallaceian things, in fact at the present time there
>>> is only one, but there is no law of physics that demands that always be the
>>> case.
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>>> > I am completely comfortable with the idea that consciousness is
>>>> totally physical
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>>> I am too, and I am comfortable with the idea that adjectives are the way
>>> that physical things like nouns behave.
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>>>   John K Clark
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