[ExI] Heroic Attempt to save a life

[David Pizer]

Samantha brings up a good point that is worth discussing a little more.
"How is this really 'saving a life' at all?"


Simple answer:  =  (only) If it works, it is saving a life.

Betty was embalmed with some extra work done to the brain.  I am not sure what that extra work was but Mike Perry, (a person who has experience in this type of situation), seems to think it has a chance of working.  So do some of the other knowledgeable people from the scientific part of cryonics.

On the other hand, we know that this is a long shot.  But if the contributors want to donate money to give this mother and good person a chance, I think they should be allowed to do that.   (After all, many non-cryonicists think that we cryonicists who have text-book suspensions don't have a chance, and we say who are they to tell us we can't be cryopreserved even though they are not paying for it).  

The Venturists have not misrepresented the additional difficulties of this case.  We have told "the whole truth" as we know it and then we have allowed those people who want to contribute their own money to be able to do that.  I don't see where this effort can be considered evil, not the right thing to do,  or worthless as there has been no fraud, force or other misrepresentations.         

My own feelings are that it is best to error on the side of life.   We know if we don't make this effort Betty will have no chance, if we do make the effort Betty has some chance.  I believe that some chance is better than no chance as long as you are honest about all the details.

Sometimes in life "Heroic efforts" pay off, I guess that is how they got their name?

I appreciate your realization of how long this longshot is and giving me an opportunity to once again make it clear that this case has problems.   So anyone who appreciates helping the underdog we welcome your donations for Betty.  All the money that we collect goes to this campaign.  No Venturists receive any pay.

Best to all,

David Pizer, President
The Society for Venturism
to donate go to Venturist.info 


On Sunday, June 1, 2014 12:43 PM, Samantha Atkins <sjatkins at mac.com> wrote:
  


With all due respect how does attempting to cryopreserve the brain of an
elderly woman in poor health for years that was embalmed nearly half a
year ago make any sense?  The probability of any successful outcome from
this is extremely low.  Some people get to feel they "did everything". 
That is pretty much it as far as I can see.  How is this really "saving
a life" at all?  

- samantha
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