[ExI] [mta] What will my Mormon Seminary Teacher Sister Think about my Dead Mom?

[Giulio Prisco]

Dear Brent,

I am so very sorry for your loss.

My Mom left me in 2001. I went to see her in the last few days when
she was already mostly unconscious. I brought only one book to read:
Frank Tipler's Physics of Immortality. The book gave me as much
comfort as one can have in such moments.

I hope that future generations of evolved humans, Heavenly persons
with God-like powers achieved by means of science, will choose to
resurrect my Mom, and me, and all our loved ones who passed away, for
us to be together again.

Does it matter if that will happen in thousands of years, or more? I
don't think so - for us, subjectively, not a moment will pass. I hope
I will close my eyes one last time, and then open my eyes again, and
see my Mom.

Let our deep convictions comfort you.

Your friend,
Giulio



On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 1:26 PM, Brent Allsop
<brent.allsop at canonizer.com> wrote:
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> My Mom just died,  So I apologize if I shouldn't be trying to communicate my
> current feelings in this way to all I love and trust so fully.
>
> I'm a Transhumanist, so it feels to me like we've now decided to rot my Mom
> in hell.  I'm having troubles sleeping now at 3:00 AM, thinking of how my
> Mom is, right now, rotting in that mortuary cooler, beginning what feels to
> me like will be more than a thousand years of lonely hell for the living.
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> I'm trying not to hate my sister.  It is currently my feeling that My Dad
> and my two Brothers might have been OK with preserving her, and not throwing
> her away for more than a thousand years.  Me, alone (terribly disappointing
> my wife), funding her $80K preservation at Alcor, if it wasn't for my
> youngest sister.  All I can think about is them now being able to sleep,
> naively thinking my Mom is now in a happy place, separated from us, the
> living.  Her now being with dead people, Santa Clause, the tooth fairy,
> Jesus and God.  After all, my Mom was hallucinating very terribly, right
> before she died, and it was almost as if she was talking with Dead people,
> in between the time when she was complaining of being upside down.  For some
> reason, though, My sister didn't think she seemed comforted.  At least one
> time, my sister said my Mom referred to it as being a nightmare.  But we
> just ignore all that part of it, because we like our happy thoughts, and my
> sister just loaded her up with more Morphine (now wondering if she did the
> right thing) trying to make it stop, so she could be "comforted".  Yea, if
> you feel happy, or don't know what you're missing, everything is OK,  and
> your not in a worse hell, right?
>
> Anyway, I've already blown up more than a few times, before my Mom died,
> storming out of the room, slamming the door, weeping and swearing about
> throwing Mom away and rotting Her in hell for more than a thousand years,
> after having conversations about this with my family.
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> My family is now planning the funeral.  I feel like, because of my current
> instabilities (I don't know what I'll do at the funeral, knowing my mom will
> be rotting right there, us getting ready to throw her away - at least
> they've decided to close the casket, I hope that will help), they've
> censored me, the first born son, from speaking at my Mom's funeral, hoping
> it will be good enough to let me give the dedicatory prayer to God over the
> grave.  I try over and over again to tell them I'm a staunch Atheist, but
> they keep asking me to pray, so I try as hard as I can to pray, whenever
> they ask, in an attempt to make them happy.  So I'm wondering what you think
> my Mormon Seminary Teacher Sister, and the many, many, other temple worker
> friends of my Mom will think about IF I prayed something like the following
> over the grave:
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> "Heavenly Father,
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> We come before thee, this day, to dedicate this grave, for the purpose of
> preserving my Mom's Body.   It is my feeling that nobody will ever give up
> till that glorious day of resurrection, when her body, all of Her memories,
> and all that Mom is, is finally reunited with this body we now lay in this
> grave.
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> For those of us that currently feel like throwing her away and rotting her
> in hell like this, is a grave sin of omision, if we are mistaken in our
> thinking, please guide and inspire those that know better, so they may be
> able to find the words to successfully communicate to those of us who are
> still mistaken, so that we may find some kind of comfort in this what now
> feels like a grave sin of omission worse than when ignorant slave owners
> murdered slaves.
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> And for those that think God will do everything to resurrect us, while we do
> nothing, if they are sinning, help those that have the moral capability to
> realize this, to be able to find the words, to better communicate, so this
> kind of grave sinning of omission may cease, sooner.  For it is our prayer
> that more people will soon be better preserved, so that more people may be
> able to be resurrected during the morning of the first resurrection, rather
> than rotting in the hell, in graves like this one, possibly for more than
> 1000 lonely years, if not forever.
>
> We so dedicate this grave, for the preservation of what is left of Mom's
> body,
>
> in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen."
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> And if I shouldn't say something like that, what should I say?  Is there any
> way I can help make everyone else feel happy thoughts, despite what I'll be
> feeling?  I'm trying to make what they want my top priority, but it is
> sometimes very hard, and I don't know if I can manage it, yet again, at
> least this time.
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> I must just be the lonely crazy Son, right?
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