[ExI] Thoughts on Ethereum?

Adrian Tymes atymes at gmail.com
Fri Mar 14 18:17:34 UTC 2014


Robin is completely correct.  Those ifs need to be addressed before
Ethereum becomes interesting.  There is a major chance they will not be
addressed successfully, large enough to make it a big no unless and until
those are.
On Mar 14, 2014 10:06 AM, "Giulio Prisco" <giulio at gmail.com> wrote:

> Of course Robin, but let's do one step at a time, a big if is better
> than a big no. Re state enforcement, this is based on a distributed
> blockchain technology similar to Bitcoin, which makes it difficult to
> stop (there is no central infrastructure to seize or shut down, and
> users can be very difficult to track if they take basic privacy
> steps).
>
> On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 2:01 PM, Robin D Hanson <rhanson at gmu.edu> wrote:
> > It "would" if it became popular and widely used enough that sufficient
> supporting
> > infrastructure was available, and it managed to resist state efforts to
> enforce
> > rules against using it for illegal activities. Those are big ifs.
> >
> > On Mar 14, 2014, at 2:30 AM, Giulio Prisco wrote:
> >> "Adrian - It's yet another solution looking for a problem at the
> moment."
> >>
> >> Well, it's a platform, it may open ways to develop many solution to
> >> many problems. For example, Ethereum seems the ideal platform to
> >> develop idea futures and general prediction markets.
> >>
> >> A PAM http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Policy_Analysis_Market built on
> >> Ethereum would permit betting real money (more precisely, cryptocoins
> >> that can be concerted to real money) anonymously.
> >>
> >> Robin, are you here and can you comment?
> >>
> >> On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 11:23 PM, Tomaz Kristan <protokol2020 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>> I thought, something like this will be only possible using quantum
> >>> contracts. But I was only half right. It may be possible with the
> classical
> >>> cryptography, too!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 7:31 PM, Adrian Tymes <atymes at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>> It's yet another solution looking for a problem at the moment.
> >>>>
> >>>> Let me know once they list specific things they can do better than
> >>>> existing alternatives.  Right now they just list general
> capabilities, and
> >>>> that's been shown insufficient to achieve significant use by itself.
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mar 12, 2014 1:28 AM, "Giulio Prisco" <giulio at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Take a look at https://www.ethereum.org/
> >>>>>
> >>>>> At a first glance it seems a powerful enabler for a social
> singularity
> >>>>> and a candidate Next Big Thing. I can even see applications to AI.
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