[ExI] dna to search

William Flynn Wallace foozler83 at gmail.com
Sat Nov 8 23:48:21 UTC 2014

Should that be 'graffito'?

She was unfazed by the genetics issues: genes are weaker indicators of
future health than actual behaviour,  (from Anders)

Well, how about Huntingdon's chorea and breast cancer? (for two of many)
Clear genetic causes, and no hope for treatment for chorea.  Who would
write any kind of insurance for a person who is certain to develop H's

I think the best thing we can leave our children is a complete genetic
chart along with lifestyle things (smoking, drinking, drug use, that could
cause inheritable epigenetic changes.  bill w

On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 5:16 PM, Anders Sandberg <anders at aleph.se> wrote:

> spike <spike66 at att.net> , 8/11/2014 6:18 PM:
> *From:* extropy-chat [mailto:extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org] *On
> Behalf Of *William Flynn Wallace
> *Sent:* Saturday, November 08, 2014 7:43 AM
> *To:* ExI chat list
> *Subject:* Re: [ExI] dna to search
> >…This looks like a done deal to me and what we have to urge the law to do
> is to stop insurance companies from using the data to exclude people  You
> can't stop dedicated hackers…
> Indeed not sir.  Technology can run circles around any system of law.
> Technological change is accelerating while legal change is slowing.  We
> cannot depend on law to help stop insurance companies from using this
> information.
> Just back from Basel. At the conference a representative of a major
> reinsurance company gave a talk that mentioned Aubrey de Grey, cell repair
> nanobots and many other things we like in positive terms. She was unfazed
> by the genetics issues: genes are weaker indicators of future health than
> actual behaviour, and thanks to the quantified self it looks like we might
> be getting "pay as you behave" insurance instead. This is not something the
> insurance companies are directly driving, but rather government health
> insurance - there was a fair bit of debate in Germany a while back about
> differentiating between smokers and nonsmokers and obese and non-obese in
> healthcare costing. But her view was that thanks to life monitoring gadgets
> and ongoing monitoring one could make premiums dynamic, just like for cars
> - drive your body safely and premiums go down, take risks with it, and they
> go up.
> (I found an eye-in-the-pyramid graffiti tag on a street wall - a gang sign
> from the Bavarian Illuminati that they are encroaching on the turf of the
> Gnomes of Zürich? Basel, thanks to the Bank for International Settlements,
> is after all their *real* headquarters. They even have a nifty 70s
> skyscraper. )
> Anders Sandberg, Future of Humanity Institute Philosophy Faculty of Oxford
> University
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