[ExI] Religious Idiocy Triumphs Over Science Yet Again

Sun Dec 13 19:44:35 UTC 2015

I think you just about said it all.  bill w

On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 12:29 PM, John Clark <johnkclark at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sat, Dec 12, 2015 William Flynn Wallace <foozler83 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > 
>> Church insiders pick and choose which of the OT or NT to believe in.
>
>
> 
> Christians believe in both but say the New
> 
> Testament
>  is better, God must have improved with a few thousand years of on the job
> training or something. Well, God forcing people to become cannibals in
> Jeremiah 19:1 is pretty bad
>  
> ( *"And I will cause them to eat the flesh of their sons and the flesh of
> their daughters, and they shall eat every one the flesh of his friend*
> *"*
> ) but the fact is it's
> in 
> the New Testament not the old that
> you find
>  the
> idea of 
> eternal torture in
> hel
> l
> ,
> and that's
> far more perverted than cannibalism.  
> .
>
> >
>> some researchers think that a lot of words were put in Jesus' mouth just
>> to make him more compatible with the OT - the fire and brimstone bits.
>>
>
> I don't even know if Jesus existed, the evidence that he did is stronger
> than the evidence that Achilles existed but not as
>  
> strong as the evidence that Muhammad
>  
> did. But it doesn't matter,
>  
> I refer to the character portrayed in the bible,
>  
> I refer to the Prince of Peace
>  
> who said in Matthew 10:34 "
> *Do not think that I came to bring peace on the earth; I did not come to
> bring peace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against
> his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law
> against her mother in law*"
> , I refer to the biblical Jesus
> who impressed the rubes with card tricks and other stunts; that Jesus was
> a Jerk.
>
> I'd be a lot more impressed if Jesus had taught us about the second law of
> thermodynamics rather than hear a report of questionable accuracy about
> some water into wine trick. It took the human race another 1800 years to
> learn about entropy and although it teaches us nothing about morality
> neither do Christ's stunts, and unlike the fermented grape juice bit you
> can't fake thermodynamics.
>
> Christ was a nut, nutty as a fruitcake, or to put it in more politically
> correct language, he had a mental illness that produced delusions of
> grandeur.
> 
> If he was a
> real 
> historical figure
>  I
>  don't think it was an act, I think he really thought he was God.
>
> Christ was a martinet. His words *"You serpents, you generation of
> vipers, how can you escape the damnation of hell"* sounds more like a
> typical flame you can find anywhere on the net then it does the wisdom of a
> great sage. Buddha, Lao-tse, and Socrates all had a much more enlightened
> attitude toward those who disagreed with them, and they had it 500 years
> before Jesus.
>
> Christ was a creep. He believed in hell, he talked with glee about *"wailing
> and gnashing of teeth"* and *"these shall go away into everlasting fire"*.
> He thought that torturing somebody, not for a billion years, but for an
> INFINITE number of years would be an amusing thing to do to somebody he
> didn't like. I think cruelty on this monstrous scale proves that Christ of
> the bible is morally indistinguishable from Satan of the bible.
>
> Christ was a idiot. He believed that God, that is to say himself, was
> furious with the human race (something to do with fruit trees) and even
> though he could do anything the only way for him to forgive the humans
> would be for the humans to torture him to death, even though being a
>  
> God he can not die. Does any of this seem very smart to
>  
> you?
>
> I don't believe I'm engaging in hyperbole, imagine for a moment what it
> would be like if
> 
> the
> 
> Christian God did exist, it would be worse than living in North Korea.
> Here we have an all powerful demon addicted to flattery who can read your
> every thought and will torture you, not for a long time, but for ETERNITY
> if you take even one small step out of line or break just one of his many,
> many, rules and they includes thought crimes. To make matters worse you're
> not even sure exactly what all his rules are, the "experts" violently (and
> I do mean violently) disagree, so you never know if you're going to be
> tortured or how to avoid it. This seems pretty depressing to me and not at
> all moral, I'll take an indifferent universe over a sadistic one any day.
>
> I call your attention to a quotation from Charles Darwin, a better man by
> far than the son of God even if you ignore his enormous scientific ability.
> I would certainly much rather have Darwin as my next door neighbor than a
> vindictive pompous ass like Jesus Christ. In spite of the objections of his
> very religious but loving wife, he wrote this in his 1876  autobiography :
> "
> *Disbelief crept over me at a very slow rate but at last was complete.
> The rate was so slow that I felt no distress, and have never since doubted
> even for a single second that my conclusion was correct. I can indeed
> hardly see how anyone ought to wish Christianity to be true; for if so the
> plain language of the text  seems to show that the men who do not believe,
> and this would  include my Father, Brother and almost all my best friends,
> will be everlastingly punished. And this is a damnable doctrine."*
>
> * *John K Clark**
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