[ExI] Zombie glutamate

Brent Allsop brent.allsop at canonizer.com
Mon Feb 16 16:28:04 UTC 2015

Hi Stathis,

What do you think the chances are, that we are still simply just miss
communicating?  We both think we understand the other, but I bet one of us
is more mistaken in this belief, than the other.  I desperately want to
better understand the way you think, and fear I am still missing something
important.  Let me state some of my understanding about the way you think
about the qualitative nature of consciousness.

You understand what “zombie glutmate” is, but you think such is logically,
or mathematically provably, not possible?

You think there is no solution to the “hard problem” or that it is
unapproachable via science.  This includes your belief that we will never
be able to determine in any way, any kind of diversity of phenomenal
consciousness (i.e. including things like being able to detect simple red
green qualitative inversion, let alone the difference between more
significant types of diversity like bi chromate vs tri chromate,

It is impossible for you to imagine how anyone could ever experience a new
blue they have never experienced before.

You prefer talking about zombie functional isomorphs, or think zombie
functional isomorphs are more consistent with your thinking, as you think
such is more possible than zombie glutamate?

Do you think it would be possible to build a system, purely out of zombie
information (i.e. by definition, has not qualitative
properties/consciousness), that could pass a Turing test?

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